While I wouldn't deliberately run him over with an SUV, (after all there are consequences legal and possibly karmic,) I can't see myself going out of my way to save him. Best he'd get would be a verbal "Watch out!"
My first impulse—trying not to overthink this—was to grab that mediocre Mengele and save his sorry ass. But I'd defintely regret it. He's the type to reward any human kindness with planned nastiness. Plus he'd continue his iatrogenic murder spree.
You know it’s really difficult to try to gauge how we would react to something like this. I tend to still be someone who believes in the power of life and love.
But I’d rather not talk about Fauci but another situation that many New Yorkers must deal with - the hunt for a parking space in Manhattan’s Upper East Side, particularly one that allows you to keep your car there for free until the next street cleaning rules require a move 2-3 days later. Years ago after driving around for a while in the East 70th St area, I was about cross 1st Ave when a parked car pulled out right on the ensuing corner. As the light changed I jumped on the opportunity and quickly drove into the just freed piece of priceless space. At the same moment another driver who had been double parked and waiting for an opening backed up and was disappointed having missed getting there by a few seconds. So at that moment I decided to move and let this person take the spot. A random act of kindness made someone’s day a little bit brighter and provided me with the satisfaction of knowing I played a part in it.
At first I was going to reply that yes I would because that would be my instinct. But upon reflection, I would not. I THINK, although I can't be sure unless and until I am in that situation, that I would probably not pull most people back from that situation, because unless it was a kid or someone who clearly didn't know what they were doing, if some butthole aggressively pushed through the crowd to get to the front of the line, my split second instinct would be to think, "they get what they get".
It's easy to know the morally RIGHT thing to do. It's another thing to execute it by not giving in to the deep and righteous anger and to rationalize it by saying to oneself "it's karma". You have posed a very soul-searching question.
This is such an intense question. I don't know the answer. But I will offer other source thoughts, a little bit akin to your contemplation.
Neale Donald Walsch in his series Conversations with God says something like this:
[paraphrase]
'The deepest lesson of Hitler is that he represented the spirit of the time (zeitgeist).'
In Handbook For The New Paradigm it states, [paraphrase] 'Do not trouble yourselves too much over the great bad deeds of single figures, as they absorb a great deal of evil, from the surrounding environs, like a boil, & upon lancing, allow the infection to drain away, restoring health, to the body (politic).'
I imagine if full healing is to come to this country & World, then *Nuremberg-like hearings must take place, to find ALL players in this physical-psychological-spiritual OP.
I remember reading a Writer a long time ago about 3 months into the lockdown, contemplating this approaching time, & said "Will there be enough prisons ?"
*See Dr. Joseph Sansone's Substack on many issues & his introduction of Dr. Boyle, composer of the 1989 Bioweapon Anti-terrorism Act.
---
And now, to walk so far out on a limb it bends down & touches the ground. Imagine a beautiful planet. That planet, has been infiltrated by an outside non-human civilization, bent & very effective at procurement of another (unknowing) planet & civilization. This outside civilization wants not only the planet's domain, largesse, & materials (minerals, metals, etc.), but wants to render its best inhabitants, via electro-chemico-genetic infiltration, un-thinking & docile slave-workers. [they] are builders, of HIVE-MINDS.
Thank you for this provocative reply, Paul. You highlighted why I included the "they are replaceable" part and, for the record, I frequently ponder what outside influences may be acting upon us.
Reading Conversations with God was such a powerful experience. It’s so true that the darkness we see manifest all around us is the byproduct of an internal fear that has plagued us all from time immemorial. Besides reading Walsh, I recommend Life After Life by Raymond Moody MD. Just learning about the transformation that happened to those who briefly crossed over to the other side only to be called back to this realm brings a reminder that there is nothing to be afraid of as we take our endless journey into the light.
I think I would still grab him and pull him back. I’d hate that instinct in myself, but I am already full aware and conflicted (on a much smaller scale) of what, at times, I consider a weakness.
Some fixate on the idea of the inherent good in man. Others think man is plagued with those who would and do practice evil or behaviors that are selfish, destructive, and at the expense of others.
Think of the debates around political theory, John Locke and what is the state of nature….is it a state of war and survival of the fittest? Or is it an environment of reciprocity that grows out of a cauldron of chaos where order asserts itself in the meeting of needs. Or maybe a mix of both.
What I do think is we all do and can benefit from regular discussions around what it means to be good, just, healthy, well adjusted as both an individual and collectively. Yet, such philosophical debates or discourses often engaged in through the humanities or public square seem to no longer be a priority. Why is that? I have thoughts around that (I think my answer on that is probably akin to why you feel we all are jockeying on the street corner) but back to your original question.
My hope (thus far in life) springs eternal that the human spirit can overcome the evil and nastiness, but it requires us to accept losses and fight for better next time. It requires recognition and public debate….in short, mere vengeance does not change the trajectory of good and evil. It is a band aid, and a poor one at that.
Accountability and consensus goes much further in changing the future for those who would be the victims of a Fauci.
Perhaps what is most disturbing to me regarding the past three years, the mass manipulation of and by the media, the politicization of our justice system and courts, and the wokeness that censors and silences…is the degree of acceptance by the masses. It begins to sure feel like laziness and self absorption whereby individuals demonstrate a lack of empathy for their fellow man, but are prepared to rage from a soap box when the and if the evil/cruelty touches them—-and not because they do not want others to suffer like them, but because they feel a need to shout “How dare life touch me in this way!!!!”
I guess my point is that culturally we are cultivating this idea of perfection and disconnect that will only serve to breed the same. I feel like we need to get back to public debates about costs and benefits with an honesty that we can’t have it all——but that we are going to strive for the best outcomes for as many as we can and have compassion for those who suffer despite best efforts. We have to be willing to be humbled as a species and accept that we are not god in this lifetime or the next, but we can generate a force that is godlike in its understanding of both pain and glory. We need more balance. And we need warriors that do not just announce sentences or convictions, we need people working daily in their personal space to emulate and practice ways that recognize and acknowledge that we can do better, must do better.
I realize this is a rather romantic notion. And I also know how tiring and hard it is to fight the small and big battles in a culture or environment that does not seem to value doing that kind of work. Do I go to the school committee meeting and air grievances that are affecting kids and fight for change or do I put in extra work with my day job and line my own pockets? Most would respond by saying….”why bother to go to the meeting, nothing will change….might as well do what gets me ahead.” We have been disenfranchised from community even as the forces nudging and brainwashing clamor about inclusiveness.
We all need to remember that nothing in life worth having is free or easy. We grow through opportunities to work for change that often announce themselves through pain, hurt, disadvantage, fate, and being victim of the actions of others. In my mind, it is important to aim to do what’s right and appeal to the power of connectedness and love, but still be prepared to do the work and go to battle when it counts.
I remember once substitute teaching and we asked a similar question….if you knew that you could prevent the atrocities of WWII with regard to the concentration camps and the execution of millions of innocents….by murdering Hitler as a child, would you do it (or let him as a kid step off the curb)?
Ethics is an important area of debate—-and yet as a society we have ceased to think about its inherent value in helping a society to move forward with deliberate and well intentioned steps that recognize the failings of the past.
And besides, I think Fauci needs to be made to own his hubris publicly and there needs to be penance. I no that will likely not happen but again….hope springs eternal, for me at least.
Virtue signaling (like people posting on FB about how good they are for having got the vaccine for others or for supporting Ukraine by posting a flag on their newsfeed) is the epitome, in my mind of a Pavlov’s dog like response that is about getting a rush of self aggrandizing and parting one’s self on the back while basking in the notion that thousands others are also seeing you with a halo encircling your head.
There is very little value at all in the shallow virtue signaling that generally offers nothing regarding exploring the terms of a debate or the merits of an action. Worse still, it is often detached from the implications inherent in the decision that one so publicly made as if there can be no other choice. For as much as it is about signaling one’s perceived virtue it is equally a measure that is about damning others and ridiculing differences of opinion. That is the effect of the hollow virtue signaling...it very much becomes a weapon to be used by those who want to force compliance.
When I heard people calling themselves good people, I was plucked! I can see saying that one is trying to be good, but to label oneself good is beyond belief. All I ever think of is Toni Morrison's line "An innocent man is a sin in the sight of God." And for those who haven't read that, she means claiming innocence when you have participated in evil is a sin.
I'm sort of getting fond of those Ukrainian flags, it lets me know where the Nazis live!
I agree it would be a difficult choice, trying to act righteously against wickedness, wishing we could assist in the justice process somehow! Oh, the awards! ;-). ~~~ But tales are told how quickly humanity tumbles into insanity when circumstances cause them to turn on each other. ~~~I am fascinated and truly awed, reading of past prisoners of war of Japan, the generous sharing of bread crusts, and taking the place of someone’s whipping…. it blows the mind what goodness cascades out of wicked acts of leadership. ~~ No, Leadership? Not really a good word for those stories. ~~ anyway, “Let’s prove to him how we Americans are strong against tide of persecution.” So many survived our wars that way. And thousands of Christians in other countries….one of my favorite and humbling magazines, Voice Of the Martyrs, set me in my place when I am weepy at times about my own struggle. Grace? Mercy? What do any of us deserve?
Death by SUV pulverization for the Josef Mengele of this generation is too easy for this malfeasant miscreant that trespassed humanity’s door in order to satisfy his thirst for the banality of celebrity and wealth.
Mickey, eeeek, now that you put it that way…..wow, that is quite some musing you have had; that’s actually a hard one for me. Yes, he makes me sick, and thankfully I know the God who has a plan for Fauci, for sure, later.~~I do care about wrongs and bad things happening to good people.~~ Standing now in my kitchen and looking back at the stories of these past few years….Of coffins lined up, several family members gone, or injured forever, in lives around the world, so sickening, unnecessary, and maddening for those of us who stood back. The ones on ventilators!!! And yes, I took some light hassles. But I knew I was right and glad I am alive now! In my case, I kept quiet, a low profile, while the others were bragging about their virtuous decisions. ~~~That Fauci has made so much money off of medical greed and human tragedies…..cannot imagine any leader who can do that. “Brought up in a barn” doesn’t cover it. ~~~ And more, nope, can’t imagine being in NY and dealing with self centered people at the stop light. Step ahead there folks, get nailed in front of me, or a fast ride to the hopsittle! Even here, impatient people in line for anything! Get real ! People at the bank are on their lunch break, same everywhere! 36 seconds are all relative, even on the computer! Someone called in sick! Geez Louise ! And if I were to recognize Fauci, and not likely, he would probably be far ahead of my contact as he would have pushed others out of the way to get somewhere sooner. “I’m Fauci, I’m science! “. Not to worry. “Tony, I pulled you out of traffic, sort of sorry I did, but because I know that CNN is finally on to you and they will help us mete out Justice” !!! We know where you are, workin on it! Howz that!??
it is almost unimaginable for me, to stand on a corner like that. We have only one busy corner in the next town over and I avoid that if possible. But in the imagined possibility, I think my reflex would still be to grab his arm and pull him back. Just a human reflex I guess. If it were a dog though, I would put myself at way greater risk. Probably jump in the middle of the cars to save the animal.
A few problems with your method. Mr 100x's worse than Mengele will never, ever be found any where even close to within 6ft of the typical useless eater on the street in NYC or anywhere else, And he can not so easily be replaced, he is truly a special monster, genius in his abilities to kill so many for so long while being treated like "The Science" and "America's doctor."
I'd save anyone in that situation. To not save another life, even a genocidal sociopath like Fauci, makes you complicit in murder. It is not your right to decide who lives and who dies. God is the final arbiter. Also, everyone is redeemable. We need to stop thinking about individuals here...it is our morals and ethics that have become degraded.
Thank you for writing this; it's what I was trying to compose in my head, but you did it better. I dislike Fauci as much as anyone, but I don't feel qualified to play God -- especially since I'm an agnostic :-) .
I'm going to refer to the adage: two wrongs don't make a right. Willfully allowing someone to die is no better than what Fauci did - it would be worse. I would also argue... what did Fauci actually do?? He is just an obvious propaganda tool for the government who spued obvious lies. I'm going to go back to my whole "personal responsibility" spiel. Fauci didn't actually physically harm anyone. WE the people blindly trusted, blindly followed orders, did not stand up for ourselves, did not educate ourselves, bullied others and put ourselves in harm's way by rolling up our sleeves for the jab. Society completely wimped out. Fauci just sat back and watched us do horrible things to ourselves and to each other. Fauci is a big nothing. WE should be ashamed of ourselves. I just don't think we will every really be able to move on or grow until we finally stop making excuses, take responsibility, and admit we complied with the COVID nonsense because it was easier.
Being mad at Fauci or the govt is kinda like being mad at a bear for mauling someone - it's what it does; that's its nature. The govt is inherently evil and doesn't care about us so why do we keep thinking it's going to save us? The govt is a reflection of us and we allow it to enslave us.
I hear you, Laura, and I appreciate this perspective. But I feel compelled to say that Fauci is more than just a bear being a bear. From AIDS to Covid and beyond, he was a major architect of the conditioning we collectively accepted.
I'm not sure if that distinction even needed to be articulated but it jumped out at me.
Is Fauci really the architect of these medical lies or is he simply playing a character -following the same tired old script? A deadly virus from deepest darkest Africa or China, that jumped from a bat or monkey or mosquito and is going to kill bazillions of people unless we all take the magic vaccine.... blah, blah, blah. How many times can we be fooled by that BS??? It's exhausting! From the way Kari Mullis described Fauci he was chosen for his high-ranking position not because of his scientific prowess, but because he is a damn good liar in front of a camera. Could Fauci just be the front man?
Did anything really change after WWII and the Nuremberg trials and all of the other horrific govt medical experiments that have occurred? We all keep claiming, "we will never forget", yet we always seem to forget when the govt drums up another manufactured crisis. I mean, the Jewish people lined up and allowed themselves to be injected with the COVID vaccine the most with very little push back. It was astounding.
I guess maybe I'm thinking more about the bigger meaning of these horrible events. I agree that, on the surface, Fauci is a criminal and does deserve to be pushed into traffic, but as good ol' George W said, "Fool me once, shame on...uh...shame on you. Fool me...uh...you can't get fooled again" (that was the funniest thing he ever said). I think we are supposed to learn something from the crap that happens to us and to learn discernment. Pushing Fauci into oncoming traffic isn't going to fix the core problem of corruption in the govt and the medical industry because there will just be another Agent Smith anxiously waiting in the wings to take his place. The problem is us. We can tar and feather as many politicians as we want, and it will only be momentarily satisfying because nothing fundamentally changed. We keep allowing ourselves to be fooled and wanting the easy way out. My two cents.
Thank you, Rae!
Thanks, Zack. You are a reluctant but effective warrior and I feel you nailed it with your closing contemplation.
As Mickey says, there are always another thousand psycho / sociopaths ready to take their place.
While I wouldn't deliberately run him over with an SUV, (after all there are consequences legal and possibly karmic,) I can't see myself going out of my way to save him. Best he'd get would be a verbal "Watch out!"
Perhaps a whispered “watch out“.
Thank you, Robert.
LOL
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Thank you, SD.
My first impulse—trying not to overthink this—was to grab that mediocre Mengele and save his sorry ass. But I'd defintely regret it. He's the type to reward any human kindness with planned nastiness. Plus he'd continue his iatrogenic murder spree.
Thanks for your honesty, James. And for the subsequent frustration.
You know it’s really difficult to try to gauge how we would react to something like this. I tend to still be someone who believes in the power of life and love.
But I’d rather not talk about Fauci but another situation that many New Yorkers must deal with - the hunt for a parking space in Manhattan’s Upper East Side, particularly one that allows you to keep your car there for free until the next street cleaning rules require a move 2-3 days later. Years ago after driving around for a while in the East 70th St area, I was about cross 1st Ave when a parked car pulled out right on the ensuing corner. As the light changed I jumped on the opportunity and quickly drove into the just freed piece of priceless space. At the same moment another driver who had been double parked and waiting for an opening backed up and was disappointed having missed getting there by a few seconds. So at that moment I decided to move and let this person take the spot. A random act of kindness made someone’s day a little bit brighter and provided me with the satisfaction of knowing I played a part in it.
Thank you, Jeff.
At first I was going to reply that yes I would because that would be my instinct. But upon reflection, I would not. I THINK, although I can't be sure unless and until I am in that situation, that I would probably not pull most people back from that situation, because unless it was a kid or someone who clearly didn't know what they were doing, if some butthole aggressively pushed through the crowd to get to the front of the line, my split second instinct would be to think, "they get what they get".
Thank you, Ann. I do not align with your conclusion but I appreciate your honesty.
It's easy to know the morally RIGHT thing to do. It's another thing to execute it by not giving in to the deep and righteous anger and to rationalize it by saying to oneself "it's karma". You have posed a very soul-searching question.
I hear you, loud and clear, Ann. Thank you.
And I'd posit that it can sometimes be quite difficult to discern what is morally right.
This is such an intense question. I don't know the answer. But I will offer other source thoughts, a little bit akin to your contemplation.
Neale Donald Walsch in his series Conversations with God says something like this:
[paraphrase]
'The deepest lesson of Hitler is that he represented the spirit of the time (zeitgeist).'
In Handbook For The New Paradigm it states, [paraphrase] 'Do not trouble yourselves too much over the great bad deeds of single figures, as they absorb a great deal of evil, from the surrounding environs, like a boil, & upon lancing, allow the infection to drain away, restoring health, to the body (politic).'
I imagine if full healing is to come to this country & World, then *Nuremberg-like hearings must take place, to find ALL players in this physical-psychological-spiritual OP.
I remember reading a Writer a long time ago about 3 months into the lockdown, contemplating this approaching time, & said "Will there be enough prisons ?"
*See Dr. Joseph Sansone's Substack on many issues & his introduction of Dr. Boyle, composer of the 1989 Bioweapon Anti-terrorism Act.
---
And now, to walk so far out on a limb it bends down & touches the ground. Imagine a beautiful planet. That planet, has been infiltrated by an outside non-human civilization, bent & very effective at procurement of another (unknowing) planet & civilization. This outside civilization wants not only the planet's domain, largesse, & materials (minerals, metals, etc.), but wants to render its best inhabitants, via electro-chemico-genetic infiltration, un-thinking & docile slave-workers. [they] are builders, of HIVE-MINDS.
I gotta admit, sounds crazy.
Walking Among Us
~ Dr. David Jacobs
Truth Is Stranger Than Fiction.
https://youtu.be/GZIGp5vAnjc
Thank you for this provocative reply, Paul. You highlighted why I included the "they are replaceable" part and, for the record, I frequently ponder what outside influences may be acting upon us.
Pondering is Good !
Rather HUMAN, I'd say.
Thanx Mick.
Really good, and thoughtful. Thanks !
Reading Conversations with God was such a powerful experience. It’s so true that the darkness we see manifest all around us is the byproduct of an internal fear that has plagued us all from time immemorial. Besides reading Walsh, I recommend Life After Life by Raymond Moody MD. Just learning about the transformation that happened to those who briefly crossed over to the other side only to be called back to this realm brings a reminder that there is nothing to be afraid of as we take our endless journey into the light.
Wow ! Beautifully Written.
I feel the same way, about NDW's CWG series. I saw him speak at a small book gathering. He was funny too.
I have read Moody's Works. He was a real pioneer, in the field of life-after-death, but a re-read, is A Great Idea !
Thank You So Much !
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND ALL.
I think I would still grab him and pull him back. I’d hate that instinct in myself, but I am already full aware and conflicted (on a much smaller scale) of what, at times, I consider a weakness.
Some fixate on the idea of the inherent good in man. Others think man is plagued with those who would and do practice evil or behaviors that are selfish, destructive, and at the expense of others.
Think of the debates around political theory, John Locke and what is the state of nature….is it a state of war and survival of the fittest? Or is it an environment of reciprocity that grows out of a cauldron of chaos where order asserts itself in the meeting of needs. Or maybe a mix of both.
What I do think is we all do and can benefit from regular discussions around what it means to be good, just, healthy, well adjusted as both an individual and collectively. Yet, such philosophical debates or discourses often engaged in through the humanities or public square seem to no longer be a priority. Why is that? I have thoughts around that (I think my answer on that is probably akin to why you feel we all are jockeying on the street corner) but back to your original question.
My hope (thus far in life) springs eternal that the human spirit can overcome the evil and nastiness, but it requires us to accept losses and fight for better next time. It requires recognition and public debate….in short, mere vengeance does not change the trajectory of good and evil. It is a band aid, and a poor one at that.
Accountability and consensus goes much further in changing the future for those who would be the victims of a Fauci.
Perhaps what is most disturbing to me regarding the past three years, the mass manipulation of and by the media, the politicization of our justice system and courts, and the wokeness that censors and silences…is the degree of acceptance by the masses. It begins to sure feel like laziness and self absorption whereby individuals demonstrate a lack of empathy for their fellow man, but are prepared to rage from a soap box when the and if the evil/cruelty touches them—-and not because they do not want others to suffer like them, but because they feel a need to shout “How dare life touch me in this way!!!!”
I guess my point is that culturally we are cultivating this idea of perfection and disconnect that will only serve to breed the same. I feel like we need to get back to public debates about costs and benefits with an honesty that we can’t have it all——but that we are going to strive for the best outcomes for as many as we can and have compassion for those who suffer despite best efforts. We have to be willing to be humbled as a species and accept that we are not god in this lifetime or the next, but we can generate a force that is godlike in its understanding of both pain and glory. We need more balance. And we need warriors that do not just announce sentences or convictions, we need people working daily in their personal space to emulate and practice ways that recognize and acknowledge that we can do better, must do better.
I realize this is a rather romantic notion. And I also know how tiring and hard it is to fight the small and big battles in a culture or environment that does not seem to value doing that kind of work. Do I go to the school committee meeting and air grievances that are affecting kids and fight for change or do I put in extra work with my day job and line my own pockets? Most would respond by saying….”why bother to go to the meeting, nothing will change….might as well do what gets me ahead.” We have been disenfranchised from community even as the forces nudging and brainwashing clamor about inclusiveness.
We all need to remember that nothing in life worth having is free or easy. We grow through opportunities to work for change that often announce themselves through pain, hurt, disadvantage, fate, and being victim of the actions of others. In my mind, it is important to aim to do what’s right and appeal to the power of connectedness and love, but still be prepared to do the work and go to battle when it counts.
I remember once substitute teaching and we asked a similar question….if you knew that you could prevent the atrocities of WWII with regard to the concentration camps and the execution of millions of innocents….by murdering Hitler as a child, would you do it (or let him as a kid step off the curb)?
Ethics is an important area of debate—-and yet as a society we have ceased to think about its inherent value in helping a society to move forward with deliberate and well intentioned steps that recognize the failings of the past.
And besides, I think Fauci needs to be made to own his hubris publicly and there needs to be penance. I no that will likely not happen but again….hope springs eternal, for me at least.
Thank you, Laura. I appreciate how you zero in on the lack of public debates on topics like ethics. Virtue signaling has, for many, replaced virtue.
Virtue signaling (like people posting on FB about how good they are for having got the vaccine for others or for supporting Ukraine by posting a flag on their newsfeed) is the epitome, in my mind of a Pavlov’s dog like response that is about getting a rush of self aggrandizing and parting one’s self on the back while basking in the notion that thousands others are also seeing you with a halo encircling your head.
There is very little value at all in the shallow virtue signaling that generally offers nothing regarding exploring the terms of a debate or the merits of an action. Worse still, it is often detached from the implications inherent in the decision that one so publicly made as if there can be no other choice. For as much as it is about signaling one’s perceived virtue it is equally a measure that is about damning others and ridiculing differences of opinion. That is the effect of the hollow virtue signaling...it very much becomes a weapon to be used by those who want to force compliance.
When I heard people calling themselves good people, I was plucked! I can see saying that one is trying to be good, but to label oneself good is beyond belief. All I ever think of is Toni Morrison's line "An innocent man is a sin in the sight of God." And for those who haven't read that, she means claiming innocence when you have participated in evil is a sin.
I'm sort of getting fond of those Ukrainian flags, it lets me know where the Nazis live!
I agree it would be a difficult choice, trying to act righteously against wickedness, wishing we could assist in the justice process somehow! Oh, the awards! ;-). ~~~ But tales are told how quickly humanity tumbles into insanity when circumstances cause them to turn on each other. ~~~I am fascinated and truly awed, reading of past prisoners of war of Japan, the generous sharing of bread crusts, and taking the place of someone’s whipping…. it blows the mind what goodness cascades out of wicked acts of leadership. ~~ No, Leadership? Not really a good word for those stories. ~~ anyway, “Let’s prove to him how we Americans are strong against tide of persecution.” So many survived our wars that way. And thousands of Christians in other countries….one of my favorite and humbling magazines, Voice Of the Martyrs, set me in my place when I am weepy at times about my own struggle. Grace? Mercy? What do any of us deserve?
Death by SUV pulverization for the Josef Mengele of this generation is too easy for this malfeasant miscreant that trespassed humanity’s door in order to satisfy his thirst for the banality of celebrity and wealth.
Mickey, eeeek, now that you put it that way…..wow, that is quite some musing you have had; that’s actually a hard one for me. Yes, he makes me sick, and thankfully I know the God who has a plan for Fauci, for sure, later.~~I do care about wrongs and bad things happening to good people.~~ Standing now in my kitchen and looking back at the stories of these past few years….Of coffins lined up, several family members gone, or injured forever, in lives around the world, so sickening, unnecessary, and maddening for those of us who stood back. The ones on ventilators!!! And yes, I took some light hassles. But I knew I was right and glad I am alive now! In my case, I kept quiet, a low profile, while the others were bragging about their virtuous decisions. ~~~That Fauci has made so much money off of medical greed and human tragedies…..cannot imagine any leader who can do that. “Brought up in a barn” doesn’t cover it. ~~~ And more, nope, can’t imagine being in NY and dealing with self centered people at the stop light. Step ahead there folks, get nailed in front of me, or a fast ride to the hopsittle! Even here, impatient people in line for anything! Get real ! People at the bank are on their lunch break, same everywhere! 36 seconds are all relative, even on the computer! Someone called in sick! Geez Louise ! And if I were to recognize Fauci, and not likely, he would probably be far ahead of my contact as he would have pushed others out of the way to get somewhere sooner. “I’m Fauci, I’m science! “. Not to worry. “Tony, I pulled you out of traffic, sort of sorry I did, but because I know that CNN is finally on to you and they will help us mete out Justice” !!! We know where you are, workin on it! Howz that!??
I like it, Sharon, and I appreciate you taking time to add to the discussion!
Nope. Fuck him.
it is almost unimaginable for me, to stand on a corner like that. We have only one busy corner in the next town over and I avoid that if possible. But in the imagined possibility, I think my reflex would still be to grab his arm and pull him back. Just a human reflex I guess. If it were a dog though, I would put myself at way greater risk. Probably jump in the middle of the cars to save the animal.
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A few problems with your method. Mr 100x's worse than Mengele will never, ever be found any where even close to within 6ft of the typical useless eater on the street in NYC or anywhere else, And he can not so easily be replaced, he is truly a special monster, genius in his abilities to kill so many for so long while being treated like "The Science" and "America's doctor."
BTW I wouldn't push him in front of the bus, but I hope America does.
Yes, obviously, I was not implying that he'd ever actually be roaming NYC on his own.
And I do feel he can be easily replaced just as all the special monsters before him have been easily replaced. Case in point: J. Edgar Hoover.
America breeds lots of monsters
Car-ma is a powerful bitch. Who are we to interfere?
I'd save anyone in that situation. To not save another life, even a genocidal sociopath like Fauci, makes you complicit in murder. It is not your right to decide who lives and who dies. God is the final arbiter. Also, everyone is redeemable. We need to stop thinking about individuals here...it is our morals and ethics that have become degraded.
Thanks, John. I agree with this: "We need to stop thinking about individuals." But I'm not sure that someone is complicit in murder in this scenario.
Going bigger picture: Our collective morals and ethics have been degraded for a VERY long time.
Thank you for writing this; it's what I was trying to compose in my head, but you did it better. I dislike Fauci as much as anyone, but I don't feel qualified to play God -- especially since I'm an agnostic :-) .
Thank you, Mark, I'm glad it resonated with you. I appreciate how many people took the time to read and reply!
I'm going to refer to the adage: two wrongs don't make a right. Willfully allowing someone to die is no better than what Fauci did - it would be worse. I would also argue... what did Fauci actually do?? He is just an obvious propaganda tool for the government who spued obvious lies. I'm going to go back to my whole "personal responsibility" spiel. Fauci didn't actually physically harm anyone. WE the people blindly trusted, blindly followed orders, did not stand up for ourselves, did not educate ourselves, bullied others and put ourselves in harm's way by rolling up our sleeves for the jab. Society completely wimped out. Fauci just sat back and watched us do horrible things to ourselves and to each other. Fauci is a big nothing. WE should be ashamed of ourselves. I just don't think we will every really be able to move on or grow until we finally stop making excuses, take responsibility, and admit we complied with the COVID nonsense because it was easier.
Being mad at Fauci or the govt is kinda like being mad at a bear for mauling someone - it's what it does; that's its nature. The govt is inherently evil and doesn't care about us so why do we keep thinking it's going to save us? The govt is a reflection of us and we allow it to enslave us.
I hear you, Laura, and I appreciate this perspective. But I feel compelled to say that Fauci is more than just a bear being a bear. From AIDS to Covid and beyond, he was a major architect of the conditioning we collectively accepted.
I'm not sure if that distinction even needed to be articulated but it jumped out at me.
Is Fauci really the architect of these medical lies or is he simply playing a character -following the same tired old script? A deadly virus from deepest darkest Africa or China, that jumped from a bat or monkey or mosquito and is going to kill bazillions of people unless we all take the magic vaccine.... blah, blah, blah. How many times can we be fooled by that BS??? It's exhausting! From the way Kari Mullis described Fauci he was chosen for his high-ranking position not because of his scientific prowess, but because he is a damn good liar in front of a camera. Could Fauci just be the front man?
Did anything really change after WWII and the Nuremberg trials and all of the other horrific govt medical experiments that have occurred? We all keep claiming, "we will never forget", yet we always seem to forget when the govt drums up another manufactured crisis. I mean, the Jewish people lined up and allowed themselves to be injected with the COVID vaccine the most with very little push back. It was astounding.
I guess maybe I'm thinking more about the bigger meaning of these horrible events. I agree that, on the surface, Fauci is a criminal and does deserve to be pushed into traffic, but as good ol' George W said, "Fool me once, shame on...uh...shame on you. Fool me...uh...you can't get fooled again" (that was the funniest thing he ever said). I think we are supposed to learn something from the crap that happens to us and to learn discernment. Pushing Fauci into oncoming traffic isn't going to fix the core problem of corruption in the govt and the medical industry because there will just be another Agent Smith anxiously waiting in the wings to take his place. The problem is us. We can tar and feather as many politicians as we want, and it will only be momentarily satisfying because nothing fundamentally changed. We keep allowing ourselves to be fooled and wanting the easy way out. My two cents.
I feel Fauci has played a bigger role than some might think but we are in agreement that there is always a replacement.