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Yes! Enough with the money-changers!

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Thank you, Helena-Sophia. OWS did some essential work - especially after Hurricane Sandy here in NYC. But, as you eloquently state, there are so many painful lessons to learn from that brief shining moment.

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I admire your long-term commitment but I'm not sure what point you're making.

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Occupiers got arrested and jailed every single day. I don't view that as a barometer of commitment, focus, or effectiveness.

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Thanks, Susan. I was tempted to comment on this, too, but opted to leave room to let it breathe. But I concur. The activism of the 60s is a mixed bag that is too often viewed through rose-colored glasses now.

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I'm curious. Were you directly involved with OWS, as in going to meetings or getting to know the individuals in the park?

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Thank you for your kind words and I hope to eventually live up to them.

Also, I hear you about Peace Action but I feel certain you'd view OWS differently if you had been there on the ground. And I say that as someone who's perhaps written more critical articles about OWS than anyone else!

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Mickey Z.'s avatar

And one more thing: The work we did with Occupy Sandy (hurricane relief) is something I remain proud of to this day. It could be used a template for future efforts of that type.

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Tricheco's avatar

I knew a whole bunch of people, across the US and Canada, who jumped in to help with relief after Sandy. I collected stuff to be shipped, too. The organization was a marvel. I thought it would be hopelessly chaotic, but no. It wasn't that at all. Morale was amazing, even at great distances. It has lessons for anyone interested in a protracted people's movement.

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Mickey Z.'s avatar

Thanks, James. You nailed it with every word...especially that closing sentence!

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

Surreal when you consider, that just a short decade later, many of those protestors would fall in line and worse, become "soldiers" for the tyrants, masked up and ready to take a trusting jab. Wow.

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Mickey Z.'s avatar

Indeed, Kathleen, it's utterly heartbreaking and demoralizing to witness people I stood with - shoulder to shoulder - transform into an unpaid PR team for Big Pharma, Big Tech, WEF, etc.

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

Well said. Yes one helluva propaganda assault.

We can be grateful, at least, that it didn't scoop all of us in.

It is a great pic, btw.

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Mickey Z.'s avatar

Thank you so much, Kathleen...and yes, as usual, there are plenty of folks who resist the programming.

Were you connected to Occupy back in the day?

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

I watched and cheered them from the sidelines, sent a couple donations, but was working in CT for a financial services firm (sadly) at the time. I put a lot of hope, like many I'm sure, that it was represented a tide-turning moment. Ahh... I'm still hopeful, though would never have expected where the world would go. Long slog.

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Mickey Z.'s avatar

Yes, the hope was running so high that I was quoted calling it "the second American Revolution"! (yikes) But, like you, I have not given up and never will.

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nona dorsky's avatar

Just one of many churches in NYC. I am a native NYer of 50 years. Now in warm and sunny Fla.

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Mickey Z.'s avatar

FLA sounds great, Nona! I'l bet you don't see many people wearing masks there, huh?

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