Likewise on both points, Howard. I got to know both of them a little back in the day and both were very generous with their time but Zinn exuded a warmth that felt unique.
As for what Zinn would be saying and doing now, nothing would surprise me.
Love Bret & Heather. Sad how Chomski has fallen prey to the Orwellian narrative that he himself warned against... not unprecedented but disappointing still!
Much appreciate your post, as always! We do for sure each, always, have to be on guard against being taken in. (I've been taken in plenty in my now-70 years. Oy!?) Mark Crispin Miller has also done a posting with Chomsky at the centre of it. I sure learned a few things about the man (whom I used to greatly admire) that I had not known. https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/learn-how-to-fight-disinformation
Thank YOU, Janet! And yes, for me, the key is to never elevate others to the status of guru or hero. I've learned SO much from Chomsky over the decades but I'm also not surprised to strongly disagree with him at times.
'...has fallen prey to the same seductive, diabolical traps he once warned us about.'
Fallen prey or willingly falling in line? End result is the same, but IMO the latter is far worse than the former and I suspect many who promoted the narrative just wanted to be good little boys and girls.
I don't know what's in Chomsky's mind but I do know that he's been a social pariah/whipping boy for six decades. Thus, him consciously falling in line is not my guess. But who knows?
Yea definitely only he knows what's in his heart, just something I have suspected about some of the more surprising people who touted the narrative. Just wanted to keep their jobs. I suppose in his case specifically, with his age and likely coming to terms with his mortality by now, that it is possible that he truly was scared. But either way, F him for all that vile crap he said about the unjabbed. That said, nothing sums up a clown world better than anarchists (whatever exact flavor), libertarians and former punk rockers publicly advocating the state to force things on people. What a time to be alive
I assume Trump Derangement Syndrome has played a role but otherwise, as you stated above, they could also be scared and/or seeking approval. Regardless, it's disheartening.
I came to doubt Chomsky for two reasons. First, he refused to support Joel Kovel's attack and firing from Bard College (under pressure by Zionists) for supporting Palestinian victims in Israel. Second, he refused to sign a letter in the NYT to acknowledge the Turkish genocide of Armenians, and other Christians, because he claimed there were atrocities on both sides.
Likewise on both points, Howard. I got to know both of them a little back in the day and both were very generous with their time but Zinn exuded a warmth that felt unique.
As for what Zinn would be saying and doing now, nothing would surprise me.
I don't know about "cavorting" but they did have dinner together after Epstein's crimes were known.
Love Bret & Heather. Sad how Chomski has fallen prey to the Orwellian narrative that he himself warned against... not unprecedented but disappointing still!
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Sadly, he's just another perjured intellectual now—ready for a gig on the NY Times op-ed page.
You're right! I literally wouldn't blink an eye to see Noam becoming "fit to print."
I've speculated that Ed Herman was his conscience. His decline predates Herman's passing, but it became fast and nasty afterwards.
Herman's essays on the cruise missile left remain relevant.
Yes, his 1999 book, Beyond Hypocrisy: Decoding the News in an Age of Propaganda, was essential reading.
indeed ! no one is fool-proof.
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Gotta keep those bills paid!
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Much appreciate your post, as always! We do for sure each, always, have to be on guard against being taken in. (I've been taken in plenty in my now-70 years. Oy!?) Mark Crispin Miller has also done a posting with Chomsky at the centre of it. I sure learned a few things about the man (whom I used to greatly admire) that I had not known. https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/learn-how-to-fight-disinformation
Thank YOU, Janet! And yes, for me, the key is to never elevate others to the status of guru or hero. I've learned SO much from Chomsky over the decades but I'm also not surprised to strongly disagree with him at times.
I often say nobody is right all the time. (Nobody is wrong all the time either, of course!)
Wise words of guidance!
'...has fallen prey to the same seductive, diabolical traps he once warned us about.'
Fallen prey or willingly falling in line? End result is the same, but IMO the latter is far worse than the former and I suspect many who promoted the narrative just wanted to be good little boys and girls.
I don't know what's in Chomsky's mind but I do know that he's been a social pariah/whipping boy for six decades. Thus, him consciously falling in line is not my guess. But who knows?
Yea definitely only he knows what's in his heart, just something I have suspected about some of the more surprising people who touted the narrative. Just wanted to keep their jobs. I suppose in his case specifically, with his age and likely coming to terms with his mortality by now, that it is possible that he truly was scared. But either way, F him for all that vile crap he said about the unjabbed. That said, nothing sums up a clown world better than anarchists (whatever exact flavor), libertarians and former punk rockers publicly advocating the state to force things on people. What a time to be alive
It is definitely disconcerting to see many of my former anarchist comrades advocating for the State.
As you, and many others, often write about, seems to be the rule these days rather than the exception. Quite sad.
I assume Trump Derangement Syndrome has played a role but otherwise, as you stated above, they could also be scared and/or seeking approval. Regardless, it's disheartening.
Hahaha, yea there's always that too. That was a very peculiar mind virus, whether the anti-Trump or the pro-Trump variant.
Beautifully said, Mickey - thanks! Loved the Fonz clip too!
Ayyyyyy! 👍👍
I came to doubt Chomsky for two reasons. First, he refused to support Joel Kovel's attack and firing from Bard College (under pressure by Zionists) for supporting Palestinian victims in Israel. Second, he refused to sign a letter in the NYT to acknowledge the Turkish genocide of Armenians, and other Christians, because he claimed there were atrocities on both sides.
Thank you, Athena! I am not particularly familiar with Chomsky's involvement (or lack thereof) in those cases so I plan to do some reading.
It has been some time since those happened but they both raised my feelers!